Look, as any guy who’s lived with a woman can tell you, skincare is hard. While most dudes are content to just scrub their face down with whatever soap they have lying around (if that, honestly), women have a whole routine of creams and moisturizers that (allegedly) keep their skin looking fresh.

However, sometimes, these routines can cause issues, and so, some people on social media have started rebelling by doing what they call the “caveman skincare routine”: no cleansers, no moisturizers, and occasionally, no water.

Does this work? Eh, depends on the person and their specific skin. But according to the internet, one person for whom this is *really* not working is the TikToker in the videos below.

If you to listen to the TikToker herself, the stuff you see on her face is just a buildup of dead skin cells. But if you read the comments, this lady either has retention hyperkeratosis or seborrheic dermatitis — both things that require a little more work than just “waiting around for it to go away.”

Then again, there are also some theories that she’s just putting foundation on a clay mask to make the internet upset, because there’s no fun quite like lying on the internet for attention.

What do *you* think?